but, mostly “there”…

Well – I don’t really post much here anymore.  I started the blog almost 3 years ago… and, I think I’m about done here.  I just don’t feel like blogging about this stuff (religion, or my past, or my family issues) anymore… but, I’ll leave this blog up for now in case anyone else finds it interesting… or, in case I change my mind an decide I need to vent again.   =)

I think this blog served it’s purpose for me.  I guess, I really needed it and am glad I had it.  It was theraputic.  I think it helped me sort out a lot of junk in my head that I never really completely was open or honest with anyone before about in “real life”.   I think I learned a lot.  Grew a lot.  Like I understand more about my past and myself now.  I feel more at peace now, I think, than I ever did before.   More clear on how I feel and what I think.  More accepting of myself and others. 

I also met a lot of interesting people.  For the first time really, I learned that I was not alone with most of how I felt or thought.  It pretty much amazed me how many people there are out there that could actually relate to things I wrote about…  experiences I thought only I had.  Likewise, I was astounded to find so many out there that I could relate to also.  I want to thank any of you who might happen to check back here for your thoughts and “friendship” – even if it was virtual.   

Of course we (those few folks and myself) are still the exception.  My “real life” and world are filled with people who have no possible way to relate or get where I’m coming from, when it comes to my religious outlooks, etc.  I’m still the only agnostic/atheist and person who grew up with mental illness in the family that I know of in my own circle of family/friends. ..  But, that’s okay.  I think, for once in my life, I am really okay with that. 

As I mentioned in one of my last comments:

” I no longer hold any hostility towards my mother or “the church”.   I think I am FINALLY over that. I know they always meant well and thought they were doing the right thing – and as you pointed out – we are all only human. I can accept that and understand that – just as I know I certainly made/make my own mistakes. Lastly, I know that my Christian friends are good people – and that they care about me – just as I do them. “

Not only that – but, I no longer feel the need to hide my feelings…  or justify them… or question them.  While I might not broadcast the fact that I’m agnostic with those I don’t  know very well… I also don’t feel the need to hide it at all from those I do know.  No apologies.  They can either accept me ”as is” or not.  To my surprise, I don’t think anyone I really care about plans to disown me anytime soon because of our differences.  While we might not agree… or understand each other.. I think my family, and my true friends can agree to disagree on things.  Those that can’t? Well…  I think that’s more their problem than mine. 

Anyway – I’ll be around here and there…    but, mostly “there”. 

=) Take care people,
~smj

Great post over on PBB… “Congratulations, Dr. Ann”

I couldn’t say it better if I tried (really hard!)… so, here’s the link… 

and, YES.. WE CAN!  =)

From: http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/?p=1078:

“Congratulations, Dr. Ann

annd220909There are countless congratulatory messages for President-Elect Obama this morning, all well-deserved. The most remarkably gifted presidential candidate of our time managed somehow to negotiate an unimaginably grueling campaign, and we, despite ourselves, managed to elect him. Shout-outs all around.

But I wanted to take a moment to recognize one of the people who by Barack’s own account helped make him what he is — his nonreligious mother, Ann Dunham.

It should be a matter of no small pride to nonreligious parents that the next President — a man who has been praised for his ethics, empathy, and broadmindedness — “was not raised in a religious household.”1 It’s the other, undiscussed first in this election — the first black President is also the first President with a completely nonreligious upbringing…..

CONTINUE FULL POST BY DALE McGOWEN here: http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/?p=1078:

 

 

Well, that’s just Religulous…

Sorry for the long overdue responses and update to this post. I DID go see the movie Religulous..

I went a few weeks ago…  by myself.  This was the first time I ever went to a movie theater by myself – so, that alone was a trip.  But, I liked it – I found the whole experience very liberating… and validating… and by that, I mean both the movie itself, and the experience of going to a movie that I wanted to see all by myself… even if nobody else wanted to see it. 

I was actually a little apprehensive… wondering who I might run in to there, or if there’d be any over zealous right wing christian fanatics throwing things at me or something.  But, no… it was pretty mellow.

I went on a Tuesday evening, around 5:30 pm.  It was the night of the presidential debate, so I had just enough time to see the movie and get home for the debate.  The theater was pretty dead.  I think there was about 12 people there, tops.  I  noticed there were several loners like myself.  Probably in the same boat as me where they didn’t know anyone who would be caught dead going to see this for fear of rotting in hell.  I secretly hoped I would know one of the other loners there.   Like.. maybe a casual work acquaintance or something, and we could be like “Hey!  Wow!?!  I didn’t know you were a skeptical mother-hucker too!?!?”…  but, no…. I didn’t know anyone… so, I slunk into my chair with my popcorn in hand and sat back and enjoyed the show. 

I know there’s been some comments about Bill Maher being very rude and cocky… but, I have to say…  I found him to be quite funny and his sarcasm was like music to my ears.  I found the movie to be very……   validating.  Many of the questions he posed… are along the same lines as the way my own skeptical  mind thinks… and the very same things I quesiton.  The things he was pointing out as not making sense – DON’T MAKE sense! 

I liked the fact that he explored many different religions… granted, he only glazed the surface of them – and didn’t go deep into any one of them  – but, that was enough to point out the similar idiocracies in many of them.  That was actually sort of the beauty of it to me.  It wasn’t anything you had to dig deep to see… 

I laughed out louad a few times…  and when I wasn’t laughing, I was smiling.  Either a smile of amusement, or with content because I felt like ”yes – this is proof that I’m not the only person around this town who thinks religion is a crock!”….  It felt good to be able to laugh and not feel like I was going to get a lecture from someone…  of course…  I assume this post might just bring on a lecture or two… 

Did I mention the popcorn was good too? 

=)
~smj

Religulous

I so want to go see this movie when it comes out this weekend…   however, I’m sure I don’t know anyone who would go see it with me… and far be it from me to try to talk anyone into going to see it and have them accuse me of being the devil’s advocate. 

I will go see it, though…  somehow.  It looks hilarious, and poignant.

Imagine No Religion…

This was interesting news….   from the FFRF folks… (Freedom From Religion Foundation).  Apparently they are putting up billboards…

More details from fox news footage can be found by clicking here.

I hope they put up more.

BS Emails…

I have a big pet peeve about emails that are BS.  Sucks to be me, right?  Because this is an ongoing and very common occurence.  But, I can’t help it.  It really irritates me how many people believe everything they get in an email, and then send it along as if it’s the god’s honest truth.  I’ve learned that pretty much anything that is really controversial, or pulls at your heart strings, or mentions famous names of people who said something, or is just plain appalling – is probably BS. 

I’m one of those people who look up things I get in emails on snopes, and then send an email back to the sender with a link telling them why it’s BS.  I try to do this nicely  – but, it’s not always easy. 

I once really pissed off a friend by telling her the email she forwarded on to everyone and their mother, where it went on about all kinds of crap and claimed to be quotes from George Carlin, was not from George Carlin.  She then asked – “WHAT do I CARE who actually said it?  She just liked it.” - to which I replied – “I care because it’s a LIE!  And, mixed in to the humor, I DID find OFFENSIVE and INCORRECT information.  And, If it doesn’t MATTER who said it, they WHY do they have to use his name?!!?”.   Of course we know why.. it’s to add credibility, and make people read it… or believe it… or like it…  which pisses me off… because it’s a LIE.  My friend and I actually had it out about this… LOL.

Anyway – lately, I’ve been getting bombarded by all the political emails circulating… mostly from religious nuts – spreading downright lies about Obama.  The blatant lies, usually heavily laced with discrimination and fear tactics, are so ridiculous.  Yet, good people I know, whole heatedly believe these emails and then forward them on. 

I just want to tell them WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!! 

Yes – there are BS emails out about McCain – but, most of the ones on him I’ve seen were actually claiming something good that wasn’t true - like:

  1. snopes.com: Presidential Pensions •••
    John McCain would not be eligible to draw a pension after serving two terms as president?
    or
  2. snopes.com: John McCain: Senior Moment ••••
    John McCain came up with a clever put-down for a student who claimed the older generation can’t understand the current one?

(Both false, BTW)

Now, I have to say that I do admire John McCain’s history as a war hero… and appreciate that aspect of him.  But, I do not know that makes him the best candidate for president.  And, I certainly don’t like the way his campaign seems to be more intent on trash talking about Obama then talking about real issues.  I mean, I’ve seen many more BS emails that were just plain nasty geared towards Obama.  Here’s a list of a few disturbing and completely BS emails I’ve received lately  – and the links with more info for them:

  1. Is Barack Obama a natural-born citizen of the U.S.?  snopes.com: Is Barack Obama a natural-born citizen of the U.S.? 
  2. E-mail describes Illinois senator Barack Obama as a ‘radical Muslim’ who ‘will not recite the Pledge of Allegiance.  ‘snopes.com: Who Is Barack Obama? 
  3. Barack Obama does not place his hand over his heart when the U.S. national anthem is played? snopes.com: Barack Obama and the National Anthem
  4. Hundreds of people with physical ailments have reported being healed by a touch from Barack Obamasnopes.com: Obama Heals Hundreds
  5. E-mail reproduces Barack Obama’s comments on the U.S. national anthem? snopes.com: Obama Explains National Anthem Stance
  6. Has Barack Obama refused to make his birth certificate available because it contains damaging information about him?  snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate

    And my personal favorite:

  7. Does the Book of Revelation describe the anti-Christ as someone with characteristics matching those of Barack Obama? snopes.com: Is Barack Obama the Anti-Christ?

 

*sigh*

Now, I am not really big on politics in general.  I don’t really believe too much out of any politicians mouth.  And like most lies, sometimes there is a shred of truth mixed in to all the BS… but, more often than not they are so far fetched it’s ridiculous.  And, people BELIEVE them! ! ?  Really ? 

I would like to think that MOST people are smarter than that…  but, apparently… not most that I know.  Which leads me to believe that the really smart sneaky ones are the Ass*!&’s that make up the crap and start it circulating n the first place.  They should be shot.  Or at least condemned to a life without the Internet

Ya know? The facts are hard enough to decipher without all these annoying emails!!  If something seems hard to believe – there’s probably a reason for that!

One thing is for sure, and that is whomever I vote for  – will not be voted for due to some BS I get in an email! 

~smj

Christian by default?

We have a new temp secretary where I work.  I’ve only known her for a few weeks now… and worked with her as her supervisor.  She’s nice enough… and trying to do a good job.  Like so many others where I work, she made it obvious she was a deeply religious Christian.  Which is fine with me… Whatever floats your boat… as long as you don’t try sinking mine if it is different than yours, I don’t care. 

When we went to lunch, she made a big point of bowing her head and saying a prayer before eating.  I patiently waited with my eyes open… but, did not participate.  A few times, she started talking about spirits and demons… and faith and God.  I politely listened, and then politely kept changing the subject.  I saw no reason to delve into my complicated background and (probably offensive to her) beliefs. 

She was a little over the top for me…  talking about angels and spirits and demons… and visits from past relatives.. and no coincidences.  I listened… but, told her I was a rather skeptical on such things but that I was glad she found peace in this.  Then, I tried to not go there again… and stick to work with her.  Still, I liked her well enough, and we could joke around a bit and work well together for the most part.  

Then, one afternoon she flat out asked me out of the blue , “do you go to church on Sundays?”… I truthfully and without any excuses or guilt said, “nope”.  Silence on her end and a questioning look seemed to beckon a further explanation from me.  I sort of thought I shouldn’t have to explain… but, found myself saying nonchalantly anyway, ”I use to go. I grew up going 3-5 times a week.  But, I had enough and some bad experiences with it.  So, I no longer go”.  And, I left it at that.  I went back to work on my PC… and ignored her disapproving, questioning look.  She muttered something like, “seems like that happens.  I never went to church until I was went on my own when I was in my 20’s and was saved”.  I just said, “mmHmmm”, and didn’t really respond.  I really was busy anyway…

She’s been there for about 4 weeks now…  and, we seem to be getting along just fine.  This past week I helped her make the transition into a different temp postion down the hall while her permanent replacement moved in with me.  I liked her… but, I like my friend that is taking the job perm with me better. 

Anyway, today, she was telling me some of the struggles of her new position… and she was very nice saying that she would rather be working with me… and that she really enjoyed working with me… and that I am a “good spirit”.  OOooooo Kay.  I’ll take that.  So, I said, Thanks.  She went on to say that she likes most everyone in our program/area…  and that she’s happy to be working around so many Christians like me. 

HUH?

Wait.  Now…  in my head… the brakes were going on…  I thought back… now, WHEN did I ever give her the impression that i am a Christian?  Because I was polite?  Because I was nice?  Because I listened to her?  I debated on if I should correct her, or let her believe that I was a Christian.  But, before I could say anything duty called and we were back to work. 

So, now I wonder…  do I let her believe what she wants to believe?? Or, do I politely somehow correct her and let her know I’m not really a “believer”? 

My gut tells me I should fess up… but, my brain wonders why I should have to fess up to not being something that I NEVER said I WAS???? 
And why the hell is this even all coming up where I work?  I mean really?  WTF? 

I guess, I’ll have to politely tell her the next time she implies I am “with her”… that I am not really “with her”.  It’s sad really, because I bet her whole opinion of me, and maybe even where we work will change if I do.  Sort of ridiculous.  Plus, I hate to get my “good spirit” comment revoked and get myself on yet another prayer list….  ;)   

*sigh*
~smj

Personalizing

One of the books I read a while back, that really hit home with me and I felt the need to recently re-visit was “My Parents’ Keeper: Adult Children of the Emotionally Disturbed (Paperback)”.  I bought it shortly before I started this blog back in 2006…   and before that point, I never heard of an ACMIP (Adult Child of a Mentally Ill Parent). 

Up until that point, I hadn’t really taken the time to look into the history of mental illness on my mother’s side of the family…  or thought too much about what her problems might be… and/or how this all may have impacted me.  When I finally started researching a bit on the taboo subject (because it was never something really admitted or discussed openly around my house), and started really trying to learn more… really tried to understand things - so much made sense. 

The following excerpt from this book was one of those things that hit home for me:

Personalizing

One error that people frequently make when communicating needs and feelings has to do with personalizing the problem.  Personalizing means assuming that other people’s behavior is always determined by their feelings toward you.  For example, you may assume they act the way they do, because they don’t care about you or dislike you.

As an ACMIP, you felt responsible for everything that went right or wrong at home.  The mood swings of an unstable parent always seemed related to something you did, or failed to do.  Little wonder that, as an adult, you assume the feelings and reactions of others all have to do with you.

As a child, experiencing yourself as the center of the universe, it may have been difficult for you to understand that the inadequate parenting you received was not aimed at you, and was not an attempt to hurt or punish you.  Only when you got somewhat older could you see that your disturbed parent behavior had little to do with you or what you deserved.”

I read that, and was like – “wow! that’s me!”.  When I read the middle paragraph in quotations above explaining WHY a child with a Mentally Ill parent would feel this way even more so than average - it made so much sense.  

I have ALWAYS, for as long as I can remember, have taken full responsibility (or blame) for not only my own actions, but often everyone around me too.  I do it so much that for years I have joked about it – telling my friends, “just tell (whomever) that it was all my fault”… and even though I said it half jokingly – the truth is, I always DID feel like whatever happened was usually “my fault”.   Like I had some invisible power over my friends or situations and I should have been able to do something to change them/things/whatever. 

My closest friends have commented for years that I’m too hard on myself… or that I often over analyze and feel guilty over too many things. I’ve written about feeling “guilty” in this blog several times.  I realized a huge part of that guilt comes from this “personalizing”. 

When I was a child, I absolutely felt responsible for my mother’s mood swings and so much more.  I did try to do whatever I could to make her happy, to not set her off on a tangent, to keep the peace between her and my dad, etc.  I was always on the “look out” – anticipating her moods and needs.  Not to mention literally feeling like it was my responsibility to ”save” my own father’s soul.  Hello???  Talk about pressure!! No wonder I “personalize”. 

When I learned this – it was helpful to know.  It didn’t really help me stop doing it all together… but, it helped. 

The same book goes on say about ”personalizing”:

People have hurts, priorities, yearnings and losses that you certainly have not caused.  You are NOT the center of their universe, only your own. 

When you’re feeling responsible for, or hurt by someone’s behavior, you can do two things:

1) Assume that you are probably personalizing.
2) Make a list of at least five explanations for their behavior that have nothing to do with you.

Easier said than done, I’ve found… but, worth a shot to keep trying. 

It has helped, in hindsight… to realize that things my mother did or said that really hurt my feelings or whatever, really had nothing to do with me…  but, rather were a result of HER illness… her problems.  Not only this, (because I think I figured that out a while back) – but, realizing that it was MY own interpretations of things -  my personalizing things –  that made the hurt and resentment even worse.  Not that I didn’t have good reason for feeling like that as a child… but, as an adult, I can now understand more and really let go of negative thinking and deep rooted resentment and hurt in the process.  

~smj

Ya Gotta Have Faith

I recently was following a post on the “AbsoluteGrace” blog where they were discussing the Bible – which lead to discussing faith.   

Now, Grace seems like a very nice woman… as I’m sure are the other bloggers there…  and I have no desire to offend or ague with them.  I was just stating my feelings on the matter.  I’d thought I’d repost that here, where I can expand a bit more.

First, on her blog I wrote:

From: http://absolutegrace.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/the-bible-gods-word/

Willa said: “It takes faith to believe the Bible”

Joy said: “there is one ingredient that must be added; to fully appreciate, ’see’, and gain the most knowledge and use from the Bible…One must have faith.”

Faith is a problem for me. I simply don’t have it. Oh, I USE to have it. Believe it or not, I was once very very much a believer. It’s not like I haven’t read the bible. I grew up on it. I can quote more of it than most of my “religious” friends. And for many years I had faith in God. But, little by little… as I grew older, searched more, learned more, and tried to make sense of it all… my “faith” escaped me.

How do you “just believe” something that in your gut, your heart, and your head – simply make no sense? I can’t create something that I just don’t have.

My Christian friends will tell me “just TRY”… “it’s a CHOICE. Just BELIEVE”… “READ the bible with an open mind”… or “PRAY and God will help you!”.

As if I never tried those things?

For several years, I struggled with it… tried to cling to what little I had left… afraid to let it go completely… hoping it would come back to me. Believe me, I prayed. I read the bible. I really wanted to believe… and was afraid not to. Still, my faith eventually completely disappeared.

I miss it sometimes… the comfort it could bring….
But, it’s gone and I don’t know how to just “have faith” now.

What people with strong faith can probably not understand or believe – is that I feel much more comfortable and at peace without it.

~smj

This whole notion of “Faith” really does drive me crazy sometimes.  It’s so….. circular.  You can’t believe, unless you have faith.  You can’t have faith, unless you believe. 

Huh?

I mean, when else, other than religion, do we do this?  Since when is trying to reason things out a bad thing? 

I can think of no other example in which we would tell our children to “just believe something.  Don’t try to reason it out.  Don’t try to understand things that don’t make sense.  Even if it flat out doesn’t make sense to you – just believe it anyway.”    ???

Someone used the wind as an example.  “just because you don’t see it, doesn’t mean it’s not there”. 
Right.  But, I can FEEL the wind.  I can SEE it’s effects.  I can watch the weather channel and the guy there can show me on the Doppler radar exactly what storms are coming in from where, and explain where that wind is coming from.  Wind makes sense.   

Telling me to just “have faith”…  would be like me telling someone,

 ”Santa IS real!  Despite anything you learned or saw or thought that might have proved the contrary… he really DOES exist.  Forget that it seems ridiculous that a man could travel around the world.  Forget that you SAW your parents wrapping your presents and signing “Santa” (they were just trying to mess you up!).  Forget any other things that led you to believe the contrary.  Just have faith!  And, if you just BELIEVE your life will be better for it and you will get great presents!  Well, you also have to follow his rules and be GOOD.  But, first you have to believe.  He won’t make sense unless you DO believe… and you won’t get any rewards unless you do… and if you DO believe… and you STILL don’t get any presents?  Well, you  must not have been a TRUE believer…  or you weren’t GOOD enough.  It’s your own fault for not really believing.  So, keep trying!  Why can’t you just believe?”.

Ok – that was a bit sarcastic and maybe comparing God to Santa isn’t the best analogy…  but, replace Santa with anything else.  I’m sure you get my drift.   I mean, how can you just believe in something you that simply makes no sense to you?  How does one DO that?   

Seriously, are there any other times we do this?  Have this “blind faith”??  

Like many things… I just don’t get it.

My Christian friends and I have actually had lots of real life friendly, and not-so-friendly, debates on such matters, and usually just need to agree to disagree.  In the end, they will tell me that I don’t WANT to get it – and so I don’t.  They can believe that if they want.    But, the truth is twofold.  One, I did try and wanted to “get it” for years… many years ago.  And, Two, at this point, they are right…  I no longer want it.  I am content, and even feel better off without it.  I’d still like to understand it, though.  

~smj

“sex is the most awful, filthy thing on Earth, and you should save it for someone you love”

So, I was doing some much overdue blog surfing… and went to one of my favorite blogs – http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/, and I happened to see a post called: “sex and the balls of the evangelical”, and the following quote at the top of the page really cracked me up.

Life in Lubbock, Texas taught me two things: One is that God loves you and you’re going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, filthy thing on Earth, and you should save it for someone you love.“  –Butch Hancock, country singer/songwriter

Now, I don’t really know Butch Hancock’s work – but, this quote alone was enough to make me want to run out and buy his CD.  LOL

The rest of the blog post there was also verrrry interesting…  talking about the latest trend with many Christians – „Purity Balls“.  I love Dale McGowan’s take on this…   so go there and read it:  http://parentingbeyondbelief.com/blog/?p=235 . 

However, it wasn’t so much the Purity Balls, but the general topic of sex and religious outlooks on it that really hit home with me today. 

It just so happens that today I am recovering from yesterday and the night before…  when I discovered that my 11 year old son had been going on to some not-so-kid-friendly websites recently.  To put it bluntly – I discovered that when I thought he was doing his homework on my computer – he was actually looking at naked women. 

The poor boy wasn’t smart enough to cover his tracks…  and didn’t realize that his dear old mom knows a thing or two about computers.  So, it was easy to see that he started off searching for things like, “women’s underwear”, and  “see through underwear“  and  “games with naked chicks in them”…  which worked it’s way up to “naked women“, and “big boobs“…. and unfortunately those led to some fairly hardcore websites. 

I       was       shocked. 

Mortified. 

I literally never thought in a million years that he was even thinking about girls yet!  Which, I realize is pretty stupid of me.  I was mad at myself for not putting that porn filter“ back on my PC.  I actually just got a new computer fairly recently and am still getting it set up – and hadn’t gotten around to the porn filtering software yet. 

So, here I was… kicking myself in the ass for not seeing this coming… and also mortified and shocked by what he had seen.  I was worried about him.  Ok.  I admit it, this was as close to panicky as I’ve felt in a long time.  

I called my husband and rambled on somewhat frantically.  How could he have done this?  How could I have been so stupid to think he wouldn’t do this?  What did he think about what he saw?  Was he going to be ruined for life now?!?  

My head was spinning. 

Our kids had already gone to bed… which was a good thing because I was half ready to freak out at him…  and I knew that, really, that was the last thing I wanted to do… or should do.  I needed to calm down. 

So, my husband and I talked… and he said, he would talk to our son the next day after school.  It was his day to get him off the bus, so that worked out well.  We agreed that we didn’t want to make this into an already bigger deal than it was… that we didn’t want to yell and scream or freak out on our son about this. 

We wanted to let him know it was natural to be curious…  find out how he felt… what he thought about things he saw… did he have questions?  At the same time I wanted to let him know that while sex is natural and not a bad thing…  still, what you see on websites is not really “natural”, or “real”, and that it was easy to wind up on websites that even grown ups shouldn’t be looking at… and that people can do and post really bad things on-line,  kids and people can get hurt… and that people can even go to jail.. blah blah blah.  All this, while still not freaking him out or making him feel like he is a terrible kid.  We agreed that we would use this as a chance try to open the doors for communication and see if he has any questions or what he wants to know…  but, also let him know he can’t do it again…  (especially since NOW I have the filtering software back up!).  

So, two nights ago, I spend a good portion of the night searching thru my computer and my husband’s laptop…  talking to my husband about it… and researching on-line just what the best way to handle this might be.  What is “normal“?  (as IF I don’t know there IS NO normal, by now).  I even wound up ordering a couple books on-line.  One to give my son that talks about puberty and changes…. and one for my husband and I that talked about talking to your kids about sex. 

I then went to work yesterday and worried most of the day about this.  I couldn’t help it.  All I could think was, “I am SO not ready for puberty with my son! When did my little baby grow up?“. 

I wondered how my husband would approach him?   If my son would deny it or not?   Would my husband be able to make the points we discussed?  I mean, my husband is a great guy, but he’s not really known for his communication skills.  Could he even bring up the things we discussed?  I was worried… but, I also knew this talk was better coming from him.  Besides, my husband has a great way of handling big issues really calmly and rationally…  (it’s the little things that send him over the deep end). 

So, I worked… and I worried myself sick all day yesterday.   

I called home around 4pm yesterday.. figuring by then they should have talked… and I had to know how it went before I headed home from work.  I wanted to know what I’d be coming home to.  My husband told me calmly and rationally how it went.  It went smooth.  No denial.  Some embarrassment.  No yelling.  Some discussion.  Rules were made.  Lines of communication were opened.  Computer privileges were taken away temporarily. 

This sounded a lot easier than I thought it was going to be.  It sounded like no big deal.  Was that a good thing??  It is, right?  I was torn.

I still felt nervous about coming home.  How would my son look me in the eye?  How would I look him in the eye?  How should I act? 

I walked thru the door, and my 11 year old son playfully tried to surprise me, like he always does.  “Boo!”, he shouted as he jumped out and ran past me.  I looked at him curiously.  He started telling me about his school project.  Nothing unusual.  He was all smiles.  Chattering on.  I saw no sign of guilt.  No shame.  I hid my confusion and listened on. 

After a while, I couldn’t take it…  I said quietly to him, “so, I heard your father had a long talk with you”.  He looked down and said, “yes”, a little embarrassed.  A little guilty.  But, no more so than when he got caught lying to me about something stupid.  I said, “OK.  Well, he told me what he said… and,  so I’m not going to lecture you or anything” (A look of relief on his face appears).  “Your father and I both know it’s natural to be curious – but, we need you to know that you can’t be going to those websites, right?”  (right).  “Ok – well – we can talk more later…  and if you have any questions you let Dad or me know, ok?“  - (OK). 

That was it.  ??  Two minutes later he was back to himself.   Talking.  Playing.  He certainly didn’t look scarred for life or anything.  I thought, at first, that maybe he was deliriouslyhappy… relieved that we didn’t kill him or anything. 

Then, I thought about how my parents, especially my mother, talked about sex to me when I was a kid.  Sex was evil.  Nasty.  Disgusting.  Something “bad“ kids and bad people did…  even talking about it or saying the word was bad.  Hell, even THINKING about it was BAD.  If I had been caught doing anything like my son was doing, I never would have heard the end of it.  I think I would have contemplated suicide if I knew they had seen the same naked pics I was looking at.  I would have felt so ashamed.  Of course, this mindset didn’t stop me from being curious or seeing things I shouldn’t have seen.  It just made me feel tremendously guilty about them for years…

No wonder I was so freaked out and worried about my son!   I was putting myself in his shoes – or putting him in MY old shoes.  ??   It didn’t occur to me until after seeing his reaction that, luckily for him, he is NOT in my old shoes.  No where’s CLOSE to those shoes.  So he has no reason to be panic stricken.  He has never had the evils of sin and lust pounded in his head.  He’s never been taught about the dark powers of the flesh, and how disgusting sex is… or how terrible and weak one must be to indulge…  Or had the kind of fear of hell and judgment instilled in him that I did. 

No.  He knew he did something he wasn’t suppose to do… and was looking at stuff he wasn’t suppose to be looking at.  That’s it.   No, he doesn’t know (and hopefully will never know) how terrible it is to have such much fear and guilt over something so natural.   If nothing else, I did something right when I threw out those old shoes of mine and didn’t put any other kids in them…

This taught me a bit about myself too.  Just how much I was affected (and still am) by the way I was brought up.  I mean, my reaction was like a knee-jerk one… and it took all my self control, common sense, rational, and my husband to keep it in check.  I still had to live through it to really feel that it was okay.  And, today was a whole new day and it doesn’t seem like so big of a deal at all.  This confirmed to me how I need to be careful not to carry  the unwanted, but so ingrained, feelings and reactions over to my own children.  

Oh yeah.. and it taught me that I need to install a porn blocker!

~smj

 

 

 

 

 

 

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